Da Chronic's Got Talent: Third Time's the Charm
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New Coach, No problem
"Let's go win a Super Bowl." How sweet Spagnuolo's first words as a Saint sound. Even after such a heartbreaking loss such as the one against San Francisco, this brings excitement and energy to the Who Dat Nation and hope that the defense will be turned around. Yes, we will have a while to wait before we see Spags standing on the sidelines in a Saints visor and windbreaker, but that doesn't mean we can't look to the future.
In general, Spagnuolo has had a very prominent coaching career. He has spent time with the Eagles, Giants, and Rams. During his eight year tenure with the Eagles, Spags was a defensive assistant under Jim Johnson, a coaching mastermind that is recognized as one of the best defensive coordinators in NFL history. While under Johnson, Spagnuolo helped the Eagles to get to four NFC title games and learned Johnson's philosophy. In 2007, Spagnuolo was hired as the Giants defensive coordinator. He was the designer of the combative defense that finished ranked 7th in the NFL and that defeated the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLII. Following his time with the Giants, Spagnuolo joined the Rams in 2009 as their new head coach. While he was with the Rams for three years, he didn't have much success. He didn't have an above .500 record and didn't make the playoffs a single time.
Now, you might see that blemish with the Rams and be quite frightened, but there is no need for that. The differences between the team he had with the Giants and the team he had with the Rams are astronomical. The talent level was on completely two ends of the spectrum. The Giants had key named players such as Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyiora, and Mathias Kiwanuka rushing the passer while the Rams were left squandering on undrafted free-agents. The Saints might not have players such as those that he had with the Giants, but they certainly are more talented than the Rams. Saints defensive starters Cam Jordan, Sedrick Ellis, and Malcolm Jenkins were all drafted in the first round and are all young in their football careers.
As far as scheming on defense, his philosophy should stay relatively the same. His coaching style is centered on rushing the passer efficiently with the front four, using linebackers as blitzers or coverage men, and having an excellent secondary. Changes will have to be made because players that worked well in GW's heavy blitz defense might not work with Spagnuolo's traditional style defense. He will have a little work to do, but it is not impossible. A thing that Spags already has an advantage on is that he is taking over players that have been preached to about hard nosed football for the past few years. They might not have the coach that began this, but they won't forget the fearsome, blitzkreig type ways that were introduced. Between the draft and the free agency period, the defense should be locked and loaded for next season.
With all of this said, we are in for an interesting off season Who Dats. We will find out who will return in black and gold, and who won't. Signing Spagnuolo was only Chapter 1 of the Saints new story and whatever happens next, I am confident the Saints will party with the Lombardi once again.
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Philosophy = rush with front four
We don’t have the personnel to do this in Nola, same as saint louis.
by xen-cuts on Jan 28, 2012 6:09 AM CST via mobile reply actions
same as saint louis.
i think chris long was more talented then any of our linemen.
by forrestgump52 on Jan 28, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
FIFY
i think chris long was more talented then all of our linemen.
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
Wouldnt that work the same way though?
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Not a lot of substance here.
Have voted need to see more on the previous candidates, voted neutral here. This one seemed more like a fan post type article. We have been arguing/discussing what needs to change for a while now. An evaluation of the talent we currently have and how they might fit in with Sprag’s scheme, would have helped this post. Also list who could be released. and maybe brought in, to fit the new D. Mentioning the Rams record as below 500, without giving how the D of the Rams may, or may not have improved, under Sprag, was uninformative. Not a bad discussion starter, but needed more research and development.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 28, 2012 8:13 AM CST reply actions
Ignore my spelling...
My teachers learned to. Actually that was what often kept me off the honor roll in school, back when that used to count. Well, that and my conduct grade…if you can believe it,
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 29, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
It is being overemphasized that Spagnola is a non-blitzing defense guy.
When he was with Phila, his defense blitzed a HUGE number of times. When with NY, the number of blitzes were moderate, but still significant. My impression of Spagnola is he will devise a defense with the type of talent he has. Last 2 years GW had no pass rush so he blitzed. Spags, hopefully, will blitz because he wants to, not because he has to.
"We've established the run; we've established the pass. Now all we have to establish is another championship!" (And a Defense!)
"Some say the glass is half empty;
Some say the glass is half full.
I say- 'are you going to finish that beer'?"
I've learned so much from my mistakes...I'm thinking of making a few more!"
My impression of Spagnola is he will devise a defense with the type of talent he has
he said that he wants the scheme to fit the players and not the players fit the scheme. obv when u have a future hall of famer (strahan) osi, kiwanuka, tuck (rotating with another couple above average guys) u can get plenty of pressure wihtout blitzing
by forrestgump52 on Jan 28, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
it's a different concept of blitz than GW's..
too soon to take a shot until we get some idea how the roster may shape up in OTAs and camps..
the main concept is, even tho like many here & elsewhere are claiming, that he will “adapt” to his personnel.. the basic scheme of how he likes to defend the field, as a whole, will more than likely remain a constant..
it’s 4-3 scheme.. the 4 passrushers have gap responsibilities in run situations.. the 4 may be down to 3 on occasion..
the 3 linebackers mostly align in respect to the strength of the offensive formation.. (TE side)
they may be down to 2 linebackers at times.. even 1 on 3rd and very long..
these LBs will be asked to cover the whole middle of the field.. that includes TEs.. & RBs out of the backfield.. one of the LB will have an either situational or designed blitz call..
in events of stunts by the front 4, he will be the fifth rusher.. in certain situations a second LB may be involved in blitz.. these will be more rare, but they may apply to the saints..
one thing that sticks out to me.. is the use of the safeties.. they will not have much involvement in the blitz, cause spag likes to make a 2-deep shell.. in his defenses the safeties are sort of equal.. not a clear cut SS and FS.. so.. that’s a BIG change right there..
these safeties cover the deep outside, cause the corners will mostly play man outside & also the slot.. some zone coverages may be mixed in there.. like seam routes by TEs (the “jimmy down the pipe” play) will be taken by one LB first with help over the top by the closest safety.. similar to the way SF defended that (hopefully with better results – then again against a beast dude, catching it over the back-shoulder at 10 foot off the ground, there ain’t much you can do..)
one thing that actually may happen is the use of harper as the blitzing linebacker.. he can’t be there on every down but it would take advantage of his ability on that field..
i have also seen the use of a blitzing corner.. i saw that play run by the giants the other day (which is not spags defense anymore, but it is his basic scheme) you’ll see that blitz used against run formations or against TE-heavy passing teams (like NE)
by the 9th plague on Jan 29, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
...and they all lived happily ever after
It read like a bedtime story. There was no substance to the article, nothing that has not been reported a thousand times. A new twist or wrinkle to the story line would have helped. Sorry, but no.
Changes will have to be made because players that worked well in GW's heavy blitz defense might not work with Spagnuolo's traditional style defense
-the only guy who worked well in GW’s scheme was probably harper and vilma lol and sharper/porter in 09. other than that the guys have just been average
-we still don’t know what spags wants to run, since he wants to evaluate personnel
-anything about how the rams D shaped up (atleast in their second season where they had some success)
I have a hard time thinking that the Giants don’t have a HUGE talent advantage over the Saints on defense. I can’t imagine the Rams have that much less talent than us on defense, although they lost a lot of DBs to injury last season.
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 30, 2012 7:14 AM CST reply actions
Rams left squandering on undrafted free agents to rush the passer?
Chris Long…Leonard Little…James Hall…Robert Quinn…where have you been the past several years? Little retired last year, but was phenomenal for them until then and drinking and driving incidents aside….was a better player than anyone we have on our defensive line. Not to mention Long and Quinn. Wow…I’m sorry, I know our comments are supposed to be constructive…but it’s obvious this guy didn’t even bother to learn anything. The Rams had and still have a LOT of talent on the defensive side of the ball. It’s obvious the writer was hoping for a gloss-over to make Spags look good.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

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