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Lions 28 @ Saints 45: Saints Rock Detroit City

Drew Brees did this a lot (six times!) tonight in the Saints 45-28 win over Detroit.  (Photo by Chris Graythen/Getty Images)


Well, the thriller turned into a thrashing. Thirty-five second half points on five New Orleans scoring drives while holding the Lions to 14 points, as the Saints turn a four-point deficit into a 17-point win in Saturday's NFC Wild Card Playoff Game. That'll do it. Saints 45, Lions 28, and the Saints head on to San Francisco for the Divisional Playoff against the 49ers.

Drew Brees turned in an MVP-esque performance: 33 of 46 for 466 yards and 3 TDs. He did fumble once, and had a few throws that could have been picked off, had the Lions brought their "pass-catching m***** f******", but they didn't, so the Saints caught a break there. The offense rolled up 167 rushing yards and 626 yards overall, while possessing the ball for almost 38 minutes.

Pierre Thomas rang up 121 CLUTCH rushing/receiving yards and a TD, while Darren Sproles totaled 85 rushing and receiving yards and two TDs. Robert Meachem pulled down four catches for 111 yards and a score, while Marques Colston had 7 catches for 120 yards (and he did have a fumble and dropped a tough TD at the end of the first half). Jimmy Graham and Devery Henderson also added TD catches on this great night.

On the defensive end, Jabari Greer snagged two interceptions in the second half to counteract the two Saints fumbles in the first half, and added seven tackles. Tracy Porter had seven solo tackles, and Roman Harper added six for a defense that gave up some yards, especially to Calvin Johnson (12 catches for 211 and two TDs).

That's it for my game recap. Make the jump to jump into the thread to share your thoughts. feelings, observations, etc., check out the final stats, and vote in the Player of the Game poll, too!! Who Dat!?!

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New Orleans Saints

Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
D. Brees 33/43 466 3 0
Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
P. Thomas 8 66 1 31
D. Sproles 10 51 2 17T
C. Ivory 13 47 0 19
D. Henderson 1 4 0 4
D. Brees 4 -1 0 2
Receiving REC YDS TD LG
M. Colston 7 120 0 40
R. Meachem 4 111 1 56T
D. Henderson 2 64 1 41T
J. Graham 7 55 1 14
P. Thomas 6 55 0 14
D. Sproles 4 34 0 12
J. Collins 2 20 0 15
A. Arrington 1 7 0 7

Detroit Lions

Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
M. Stafford 28/43 380 3 2
Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
K. Smith 6 21 0 9
T. Young 1 8 0 8
N. Burleson 1 2 0 2
M. Stafford 2 1 1 1T
Receiving REC YDS TD LG
C. Johnson 12 211 2 42
N. Burleson 4 50 0 21
B. Pettigrew 4 49 0 22
T. Young 4 33 0 15
K. Smith 2 20 0 13
W. Heller 1 10 1 10T
T. Scheffler 1 7 0 7
Poll
Who is your non-Drew Breeeeees!!! Player of the Game?
Marques Colston
24 votes
Jabari Greer
55 votes
Robert Meachem
10 votes
Darren Sproles
48 votes
Pierre Thomas
332 votes
Other - please explain below.
15 votes

484 votes | Poll has closed

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Should be Thomas...and honestly...shouldn't even be close.

The yardage that guy got after first contact today was absolutely amazing. I can’t even begin to count the clutch touches he had for first downs or to get us out of second and long. Hats off to him.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 7, 2012 10:59 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed, Jeff

PT doesn’t get enough respect. He’s always been great about somehow getting yardage after first, second, and sometimes third contact. Not bad for an undrafted player!

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 7, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Pierre Thomas

He kept the team in the game when they needed first downs.

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010) and Ron Santo (February 25, 1940-December 2, 2010).
If you disagree with me in any way, you are wrong.

by Ace Venom on Jan 7, 2012 11:00 PM CST reply actions  

PT hands down his best, SP saved him all year, for this

yards after contact incredible!!!!!!

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi

by metryman on Jan 7, 2012 11:02 PM CST reply actions  

stop and think for a moment...

It doesn’t seem like all that long ago that just making the playoffs seemed like a huge victory for this franchise (hell, I can remember being desparate just to finish 9-7). Watching the post-game comments from Payton, this win is just a means to an end. Hats off and a huge thank you to Payloo for bringing this franchise to this point.

Oh, and by the way… I’m really starting to like how fans of other teams are starting to hate us. I used to hate the 49ers back in the 80s and 90s too – because they were good.

"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010

by SaintBevo on Jan 7, 2012 11:03 PM CST reply actions  

PRO BOWL O!!

I’ve said it and i’m proud of those T-walls protecting the Brees.. SUH was not a factor as many anticipated… but again he wasn’t playing any O-line….
What a game Hansdat!!…

Paul

by The Flying Dutchman on Jan 7, 2012 11:03 PM CST reply actions  

and don't forget the podcast with Kevin, Ralph and Dave

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/forecastradio/2012/01/08/da-chronic-podcast-saints-v-lions—playoff-postgame-show

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2012 11:03 PM CST reply actions  

he kicked off a lot

and stood around awkwardly during the pre-game huddle-chant

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Gotta love those No-Puntin'-M_____ F_____s!

This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.

by Doc Boudin on Jan 8, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I went from Beer in the first half

To Crown and 7 in the second. Not only it calmed my nerves, but the offense heated up. When that happens, there’s no way of stopping us.

The first half was nailbiting for sure

I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.

Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)

by Jricky70 on Jan 7, 2012 11:06 PM CST reply actions  

keep drinking Crown ;)

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 7, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Crown Works!

Screw Beer!

I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.

Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)

by Jricky70 on Jan 7, 2012 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

hehe, I'm getting Crown for next week too ;)

I’ll save the beer for later

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 7, 2012 11:44 PM CST up reply actions  

the Crown Prince you are!!

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Spent the entire first half drinking beer.

Switched to water in the second (had to get up early this morning). I was going to have another beer, but after that first Saints drive, I was swilling ice water like no tomorrow. Terrible stuff; fish f—- in it, you know. But I can make those kinds of sacrifices for Drew and the boys.

This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.

by Doc Boudin on Jan 8, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Kevin, Ralph and Dave

are having a hard time coming up with enough superlatives. LMAO!

Every day I'm shufflin'!

by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 7, 2012 11:14 PM CST reply actions  

I voted for PT individually...

But the entire running team specialists should get the award jointly, because they basically owned the line of scrimmage all day, especially the second half. PT, Ivory, and Sproles were getting huge holes almost every play.

Not to mention, they just ruled TOP in the second half, kept Detroit off the field…and most importantly, scored TD’s from those drives.

If this team goes the distance and wins the Super Bowl, everybody will talk about Brees, and quite deservedly. But, I say it’s that smash-mouth running game that will be the key.

On to Frisco.

by Anthony_JK on Jan 7, 2012 11:22 PM CST reply actions  

I'll back that statement up, again.

What an insane backfield we’ve got! That’s just crazy. PT, Sproles, and TUSK!!! Has anyone suggested they play Fleetwood Mac, “Tusk”, for our Tusk? Not the whole song, just the “Tusk!!!”?

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 4:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I believe there is a mistake in the poll...

…there are six choices, but only one for Pierre Thomas.

Shouldn’t they all read “Pierre Thomas”???

…dude was on FIRE tonight, truly a man on a mission, you might say…

;-)

Irony: an atheist Saints fan

by GSO Saints Fan on Jan 7, 2012 11:25 PM CST reply actions  

yeah, he would not be denied. Blockers or no blockers

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 7, 2012 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Congratulations on the impressive win tonight.

Hope to see you guys again next month.

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 7, 2012 11:26 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks, congrats on getting that first playoff win Texans!

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 7, 2012 11:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Those down-field passes were placed in there perfectly...

Colston opened his hands and the ball fell right in there on one particular play near the goal line in the second half. The Lion defender did not even realize the ball was caught until Colston fell to the ground with the ball and the defender swatting at the ball in disbelief. Stafford played really well himself, real competitor. Onward! Beat the 9ers! Make em pay for all those 80’s and 90’s defeats they laid on y’all Saints!

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 7, 2012 11:30 PM CST reply actions  

Stafford had a few of those, too

but he still could learn a lot from Drew Breeeeeesssss!!!

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions  

amen, I hope he was paying attention, but yeah he threw some nice ones also

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 7, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions  

That one throw

to Megatron where he was off balance was simply ridiculous. Guy has a cannon.

by JellyPhantom on Jan 7, 2012 11:40 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, he threw that one a long long way and it fell in there perfectly. Stafford to Johnson is a lethal combo

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 7, 2012 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Look I agree that PT should win the vote

But for DEFENSIVE player of the game Greer should win that one in a landslide. Thrown at 12 times, only allowed six completions, caught two ints, and gave up, what, 60 yards or so total all game long? THAT is what a great corner looks like.

Pity we only have one, instead of three.

by FriarBob on Jan 7, 2012 11:33 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Drew had 1 yard rushing.

Gotta' work on that, dude!

Every day I'm shufflin'!

by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 7, 2012 11:36 PM CST reply actions  

he's a slacker

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2012 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Bring on the 69ers!!

I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.

Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)

by Jricky70 on Jan 7, 2012 11:44 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I've told this story before. I expect you know it, JND.

4 and 9 in Japan represent death (kinda like us and 13). So, if you really want to pi$$ off a Japanese, give them a 49ers jacket.

by saintsrus on Jan 8, 2012 12:59 AM CST up reply actions  

hehe, Frisco fans must unwittingly do that one occassionally and wonder why those respective Japanese frown at them or scowl at them.

Those Japanese may just be Saints fans who lived through the 80’s and 90’s though or Rams’ fans ;)

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 8, 2012 1:07 AM CST up reply actions  

sure, and it's a road game, outdoors, against a good defense

there’s plenty to worry about, JND…

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2012 11:51 PM CST up reply actions  

that preseason win we got on them this year don't mean SQUAT

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2012 11:52 PM CST up reply actions  

but we have to think positively, too

their offense is pretty piss-poor, and their mothers dress them funnily

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh if it comes down to their O against our D I take us hands-down 19 games out of 20.

But even then our offense has to do “enough” to “steal” the “upset”…

by FriarBob on Jan 7, 2012 11:55 PM CST up reply actions  

The Farty Whiners kicker set an NFL record for a reason:

Their red zone offense is….well….OFFENSIVE.

I’ll trade David Akers scoring with Drew Brees scoring all day and twice on Sunday.

…this one is likely to be a blowout, IMO.

Irony: an atheist Saints fan

by GSO Saints Fan on Jan 7, 2012 11:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

And our red-zone D has been pretty decent in the second half of the season.

I really would LOVE for a blowout. I’m sorry, even if they win, even then the 49ers still didn’t deserve to be the #2 seed. They aren’t the better team. In the Dome this WOULD be a blowout. And I’d like us to get one on the road, as the icing on the cake.

But a win would be enough for me.

by FriarBob on Jan 8, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Far more worried about the grass field and the crosswinds.

We’ve got only three hours less than a full 7-day resting period. That’s plenty for a normal turnaround week.

No, rest isn’t really the issue. It’s going to be making sure we play well enough on an unfamiliar non-turf field with crosswinds and gusts and swirls and the like making the passing game at least a bit less “safe”, possible a lot less.

by FriarBob on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess farty-whiner cross winds are pretty odiferous - Ha! time for bed, Hans

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

What I really like is, if we get past next week, we should have an extra day's rest

versus whomever we play. I know, not that big a deal but makes me sneakily good.

by saintsrus on Jan 8, 2012 1:02 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah, a tough bunch over there

I hope the Saints have balance on offense. Run it with Ivory and Pierre inside like today—do what the 9ers used to do to stout Saints’ defenses with that sneaky power running. Saint D get ready for some ground and pound by them. Brees, drive it down a break their heart if it comes to that.

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 7, 2012 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Outscore them, we got em

They held a record of kicking tons of field goals

I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.

Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)

by Jricky70 on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

their offense is always well rested

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 10, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

how can you not love PT and be happy for his sucess?

"We've established the run; we've established the pass. Now all we have to establish is another championship!"
"Some say the glass is half empty;
Some say the glass is half full.
I say- 'are you going to finish that beer'?"

by Philinwood on Jan 8, 2012 12:25 AM CST reply actions  

Well, Alex Smith ain't gonna beat us with 140 passing yds

we gotta wear the correct cleats, long ones. Hopefully, no rain there for a wk. Wind could be an issue.

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi

by metryman on Jan 8, 2012 12:26 AM CST reply actions  

Congratulations from a Falcons fan

Of course I was rooting against y’all. Not only are you a hated rival, but now if we win tomorrow we have to go up to Lambeau…on the other hand, I kinda like going up against the best the conference has to offer. To that point, I hope we meet again in the NFC Championship!

by orion12 on Jan 8, 2012 12:35 AM CST reply actions  

thanks, I will be pulling for the Giants also...

but it you get by them, and i don’t feel good about saying this, I hope y’all beat the Packers (ugh! for hoping y’all win if it comes to that), but I would rather the Saints play at home not that the Birds won’t be tough. The Packers in Lambeau will be extremely tough for y’all if you can get by the Giants as it will be for the Saints if we have to go there. Geaux Giants!

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 8, 2012 12:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I am very suprised that the voting was so overwhelmingly for PT

Don’t get me wrong, he did a wonderful job. And, from a standpoint of enjoying watching a player do amazing things, PT would clearly get my vote. But, Marques? omigod! Meachem? Omigod! Sproles? Omigod! I could go on…I couldn’t really pick one!

by saintsrus on Jan 8, 2012 12:46 AM CST reply actions  

PT was awfully cool to watch tonight. He did every move I've ever seen.

The bull run.
The dodge.
The knife.
.
.
.
Fine stuff, no doubt about it.

by saintsrus on Jan 8, 2012 12:47 AM CST up reply actions  

good point about, voted for PT but the (all of the above option) would have certainly got my attention and some votes

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 8, 2012 12:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I like that one.

It was like watching PT, Sproles, and Reggie all rolled into one was what I was thinking. Omigod but I drank waaaay too much coffee. Can you imagine? I was listening to a disco band while watching the game. Weird.

by saintsrus on Jan 8, 2012 12:53 AM CST up reply actions  

every day, even

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 5:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess the Saints can't win.

They kneel to end the game: People complain about passing late.
They win a game: People complain that their teams weren’t given a chance because of refs.
Great game guys. You won fair in my eyes.

by cpranger on Jan 8, 2012 12:49 AM CST reply actions  

Haha! As I was walking home tonight I was thinking that which is worse and more

embarrassing for the losing team? Getting scored on one more time or getting the winning quarterback pulled early….because we’re just not that worried about the losing team?

by saintsrus on Jan 8, 2012 12:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Funny. I was at this bar tonight and EVERYBODY wanted the Lions to win!

I was pretty offended until I talked to a few of them and NOBODY wants to face the Saints. They would rather face Green Bay! Now, that’s cool!

by saintsrus on Jan 8, 2012 12:50 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

Yep

Nobody in their right mind wants to play the Saints.

"So I'll leave you with this. And I say this with all sincerity, right from the bottom of my heart, and with all due respect: Lick my balls." Grandmaster Wang

by DrWhoDat on Jan 8, 2012 1:57 AM CST up reply actions  

What really upsets me

is that every time Drew Brees does something great, all I get to hear about is “Well you know Drew Brees likes gitmo. He’s a terrible person. Hurrrrrrrr.”

by cpranger on Jan 8, 2012 1:00 AM CST reply actions  

Whatever they say that's the great thing about Drew is he's not just a great competitor, he's

a great person. Have you ever noticed that he needs something a little greater than himself to play for? Now, it’s his two sons. Can’t beat motivation like that!

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 4:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

His knee was clearly down before the ball hit the pylon

by cpranger on Jan 8, 2012 1:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Knee, no. Lower part of the shin, however, yes. And based on my understanding of the rules, that should have been enough for down-by-contact.

It was an extremely close call. And at least partly questionable. But it wasn’t quite as atrocious as that “early whistle”, which was a bad mistake by the refs… nor as bad as the fact that they didn’t even give the ball to the right team AFTER the early whistle. Sure the throw was a fumble (though at first I was surprised because it wasn’t until the slow-mo replay that I could really tell it actually was a fumble) but when the whistle blew nobody had the ball yet, so by rule even as a totally atrocious call — which is would have been — it should have gone back to us. And if they’re going to accuse us of stealing the game by paying the refs, we should go whole hog and actually do it for real, right? :)

Oh and by the way, audio needs to be part of the replay process, because if it was Sean would have challenged the play and it would have been our ball.

by FriarBob on Jan 8, 2012 1:25 AM CST up reply actions  

lol pylon is a touchdown

some interesting comments round these here parts

by mrg80 on Jan 8, 2012 5:25 AM CST up reply actions  

dude stop

the pylon is a touchdown. thats why its there so that the refs can see if you break the plane of the goal line

I see what you got...Lets rock - Al Bundy

by knucklesmalone on Jan 8, 2012 6:46 AM CST up reply actions  

knucklesmalone!!!

I’ve missed your pic you.

Every day I'm shufflin'!

by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 8, 2012 6:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it's supposably

marking the inside corner, i.e. the beginning of the end zone

but it technically stretches outside the boundary of the end zone, and the rule is that if the ball touches the pylon or crosses the “plane” of the pylon that extends above it, it’s a TD, regardless of the fact that the outer corner edges of the pylon are literally/geographically/physically outside the boundaries of the end zone – “the pylon is IN the end zone”

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 8:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, HD. That explains it.

I see also you understand what I’m talking about.

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

yup just don't ask me to explain the rules about catching the ball on the goal line and your feet are across but the ball isn't

and somehow sometimes that ends up being a TD – I got nothin’ on that one

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, maybe you can explain Marques' lost touchdown.

I was in a bar with a live disco band (god help me – you should have seen their costumes, well, not really), so I couldn’t even hear what the explanation was, though I expect it was pretty lame. I mean he hit the ground with control of the ball. WHEN he hit the ground, it popped out. That’s AFTER contact with the ground. How does that work?

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

he has to maintain control of the ball through the complete act of going to the ground

when he hit the turf, the ball jiggled loose and then rested against the ground at the very end before he could re-secure it in his grip or against his helmet – it was VERY CLOSE, but replay clearly showed he trapped it against the ground at the end.

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

It's the "act of going to the ground" that I can't seem

to get through my thick head. Yes, he did not maintain control AFTER he hit the ground. Sigh. I understand. I hate the rule, but I understand.

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah if he had hit with both feet down fully upright and in control of ball and balance first

and then been knocked over by DB it would have been TD, because once he has both feet down and control it’s a TD

and if he had caught it outside the end zone, established control and then run into end zone, falling while going across goal line and then ball comes out as he hits ground, it’s a TD the second the ball crosses the plane, and not a fumble.

Easy peasy, right?

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Darn! They don't have a replay of that, of course.

That’s not a highlight! I think I have to get the NFL playoff game video package.

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

not exactly

feet hitting in full balance with ball control FIRST, before getting even touched by defender and then knocked over would be TD

if he goes up and is hit in the air and never establishes full possession (control of ball and two feet down with balance) before…but wait, maybe I’ve got this wrong with the whole “possession and balance” bit – it could just be coming out of thin air. I do that sometimes – ask my wife.

Sorry, SB

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, if I want to know more, I'll purchase

the nfl postseason package. I already know that crazy rule in the end zone is ambiguous as possible. I just couldn’t figure out how it would apply to Marques falling on his back/feet with the ball clearly right in there. He must have hit right on his shoulder blade or something.

You know what I just realized. There were NO injuries, right? For either team! That’s pretty awesome for two teams being accused of dirty play.

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Double yep.

"Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people. " -Carl Sagan

by crescendo2020 on Jan 8, 2012 1:23 AM CST up reply actions  

The refs handed you the game anyway.

and there was not enough to overturn it anyway. The story about this game is the refs not calling ANYTHING on the Saints. Take a look around the internet.

by LionsD on Jan 8, 2012 2:42 AM CST up reply actions  

i've looked around the internet

lions fans crying about the refs and 49er fans talking about 9ers>rams>saints logic.

I see what you got...Lets rock - Al Bundy

by knucklesmalone on Jan 8, 2012 6:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Or anything on the Lions. The refs were “letting them play”. I personally do NOT like that. But that’s what the “effective” rules of this game were, and the Saints adapted to them and you didn’t. Your fault, not ours.

by FriarBob on Jan 8, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Feel a bit sour for not being able to go watch as I'm halfway around the world, #$%*&!

But the win adds a little sugar to that taste.

Now go get another Lombardi.

"In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs"

by J of the F on Jan 8, 2012 1:05 AM CST reply actions  

There is a thread on Niners Nation on the front page

Where the guy that runs it basically said people are saying we are going to lose to the Saints and everyone responds with Saints/Saints fans/New Orleans hate.

About half way through they came to check on us and couldn’t understand why we weren’t going ballistic they way they would be right now lol.

It’s an interesting read.

by SarahT on Jan 8, 2012 1:12 AM CST reply actions  

link?

"In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs"

by J of the F on Jan 8, 2012 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

There we go, thanks. Net here is going too slow to search for it.

"In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs"

by J of the F on Jan 8, 2012 1:16 AM CST up reply actions  

they are saying some funny s***… I can;t reply until tomorrow… probably for the best.

I’ll be on to something else by then.

by Dan Kelly on Jan 8, 2012 1:46 AM CST up reply actions  

some are saying that they were surprised how “great” they played against the steelers.

187yards and 1td by Alex Smith.

They played “great” because Tomlin ran that team into the ground by riding a wounded horse the whole game. too funny.

by Dan Kelly on Jan 8, 2012 2:00 AM CST up reply actions  

This guy obviously has never heard of Chris Ivory, or didn’t see PT breaking tackles today

Oh so rec’d!

"Move over Marino, there's a new Brees coming through town!"-Jim Henderson

by BRSaintsFan on Jan 8, 2012 5:12 AM CST up reply actions  

On a completely unrelated note, how do I quote text like you did so that it shows up in a box like that?

by daisy117 on Jan 8, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

type some text in the comment box (not the headline/subject line)

highlight it, then click on the quotation mark icon above the text box

click on preview to see how it looks

then if it looks good hit post

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

type some text in the comment box (not the headline/subject line)

highlight it, then click on the quotation mark icon above the text box

click on preview to see how it looks

then if it looks good hit post

Excellent, thank you

by daisy117 on Jan 8, 2012 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I can actually understand how the poor guy, David Fucillo, feels. That was kinda

how I was reading things tonight. We’ve already won the Superbowl. Why bother holding the event. Now, I KNOW that would tick people off on this site like crazy. It would me. But, it would also, probably, have me awfully worried about next week.

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 5:50 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah, saw that earlier when I joined, stir em up and get em pissed. Don't hate the 9ers but don't like them all that much for the 80's and 90's history with them.

was nice when Brees drove down the field and broke their heart last year with a last drive like they did so many times after the Saints put up a great effort all those years. I hope we win and if it comes to it, Brees breaks their hearts again.

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 8, 2012 1:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Turnabout is fair play

Hmm, back in the 80s we had a good defense, they had the elite QB… who won most of those games again?

Turnabout would be SWEET.

by FriarBob on Jan 8, 2012 1:28 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

late 80s early 90s rather…

by FriarBob on Jan 8, 2012 1:29 AM CST up reply actions  

so was it in Tecmo Superbowl

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 8, 2012 1:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Turnabout would be SWEET.

Rec’d Sweet indeed.

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 8, 2012 1:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I didn't get to see the game, I had to work

but did we lose anyone to injury? I’m watching the highlights and on Bree’s fumble it looks like Colston, I think, is in some pain. He played the second half to my knowledge so he must be ok… or it was someone else.

by daisy117 on Jan 8, 2012 1:41 AM CST reply actions  

Credit coaching staff for scouting ref crew

we were able to get away with a lot of holds. Almost same thing happened in 2009 when the ref crew in Pats game let our DB’s mug their receivers. It shows that the coaches are doing all the little things that it takes to win.

"So I'll leave you with this. And I say this with all sincerity, right from the bottom of my heart, and with all due respect: Lick my balls." Grandmaster Wang

by DrWhoDat on Jan 8, 2012 1:51 AM CST reply actions  

Unanimous around the internet,

Refs managed a great game for the Saints. One penalty in 60+ offensive plays? . A clear fumble recovery called dead. 10 holding calls, where D linemen got mugged and tackled, not called. Writers on Yahoo and Fox are writing about it Enjoy your cheap ass win.

by LionsD on Jan 8, 2012 2:40 AM CST reply actions  

Well.

If the internet says it, it must be true! I see that you didn’t watch the game. Well, I hope the rest of the Lions fans aren’t like you.

by cpranger on Jan 8, 2012 2:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Read the comments, and I've read it on NFL.COM

bleacherreport, you name it. Everyone talks about clearly bogus calls that negate touchdowns, and 70 offensive plays with 10 or 15 holdings that were never called. Schwartz will get fined for mentioning facts.

by LionsD on Jan 8, 2012 2:50 AM CST up reply actions  

The ref

thought it was an incomplete pass. The ruling was incorrect in giving the ball to the Lions. You could easily say that the refs took away a touchdown from the Saints. You can’t use a counterfactual to make a point.

by cpranger on Jan 8, 2012 2:55 AM CST up reply actions  

And gave Stafford a touchdown for sure

Why are we bothering with this chump? Poor losers have no place here.

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 5:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Ahhhh, no. The call was ultimately correct.

The only reason Detroit was able to run the play all the way for a TD was because the Saints had let up because of the inadvertant whistle. Ultimately, giving the Lions the ball at the point of recovery was the right call…especially since audio is not a factor in reviewing plays.

Besides, what’s to say that the Lions don’t take advantage like they had and driven down the field and scored, like they did on the previous drive? The point is: they didn’t, they went 3-and-out. Winning teams take advantage of opportunities, regardless of the refs. The Lions just plain didn’t…and they paid the price in the second half.

Haters gonna hate, and Scoreboard will always suck worse for those on the wrong side of it. Sorry, LionsD, but the better team won. Deal, and prepare for next year.

by Anthony_JK on Jan 8, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

You have to explain

how that one incorrectly called play prevented the Lions from scoring more than fourteen points in the second half after going into the half with the lead. The Lions punted after the fumble, which they were incorrectly given. The Lions also held the Saints to a field goal on the following possession. Both sides can cry about not having holding calls going their way. But, if that’s the way you’re going to be, then I guess I’m going to sit here and drink your tears.

by cpranger on Jan 8, 2012 3:01 AM CST up reply actions  

There you go, bringing facts and logic into the argument. Sarah, you’re a girl, man, don’t you know that FEELINGS are all that count?

by FriarBob on Jan 8, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

oops can't wait for this reply

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

oops can't wait for this reply

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Well I figure she will know I was joking. If not, then I’ll be more than willing to apologize.

by FriarBob on Jan 8, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Check any Yahoo blog comments

The vast majority of the resonses are negative.

One question: don’t you think this game was reffed/called better than the regular season game between us?

"Move over Marino, there's a new Brees coming through town!"-Jim Henderson

by BRSaintsFan on Jan 8, 2012 5:17 AM CST up reply actions  

The Hochuli Rule

only allows for the play to be reviewed. Schwartz may or may not have decided to challenge (it looked like he would), but you cannot say for certain that the defender would have scored a touchdown when there were receivers near the play.

by cpranger on Jan 8, 2012 3:11 AM CST reply actions  

a little bit of congrats needs to go to the OL as well

de la Puente, Nicks, Evans, Strief, and Bushrod…..they made a good Detroit DL mostly irrelevant with a bit of help from their chipping friends

by Drinkin' Wit' Terrell Farley on Jan 8, 2012 4:52 AM CST reply actions  

Folks, may I suggest that no one goes over there to straighten them out?

I’d suspect that all lessons will be learned on Sunday – by one team or the other. I hope I’m not inviting some opposing nutcase to come in here on that comment. Lunatic Lion, please stay away. I’m tired of hearing you. And, will just ignore any ignominous comments you make. And, if you don’t know what the word means, don’t post.

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 5:23 AM CST reply actions  

pretty much

Gonna be some loose cannons on both sides….some people here are talking quite a bit of trash. Can’t wait for the game!!

by mrg80 on Jan 8, 2012 5:28 AM CST up reply actions  

As long as the trash stays in our own back yards, it seems fine to me.

I can out trash-talk anybody on my own page, believe me. Just not right to go to somebody else’s house and trash it up, though.

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 5:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Homers will be homers

That’s why we have our own sites to talk chit with each other!

"Move over Marino, there's a new Brees coming through town!"-Jim Henderson

by BRSaintsFan on Jan 8, 2012 5:34 AM CST reply actions  

And, if you're not a homer, whatcha doin?

“Well, I think the game was just grand! Ahem.” ???????

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 5:36 AM CST up reply actions  

So, this is what non-homers are supposed to say. Intelligent stuff. Dang!
He better have something up his sleeve because it’s going to come down to a coaching duel between a rookie NFL coach and a superbowl champion coach. Harbaugh can’t afford any mistakes!

Hadn’t thought of that!

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 5:41 AM CST reply actions  

Every single NFL fanbase complains about how the refs blow calls and screw them.

Every NFL fan is not exactly an objective analyst when it comes to their own teams’ games. Being a ref is a pretty thankless job; I imagine those guys are trying to do their best. And in the playoffs, they make fewer calls all around.

by iiAndyiiii on Jan 8, 2012 7:15 AM CST reply actions  

was it Sproles or PT, who was stuffed on a tackle and crushed behind the line, and then the ref blew the whistle and ran in arms a-waving to mark forward progress

and then the DL guy flipped our runner over, slamming him into the turf in almost a pile driver move, which I thought could have been called late hit or unnecessary roughness, at least, but drew no flag.

This was pretty early in the game…

letting them play…? ok…I guess?

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 8:04 AM CST reply actions  

Can't recall it.

Good Lord, but I haven’t slept and I’m not feeling like it’s happening anytime soon.

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

There was a similar play in one of the Sunday games.

You guessed it, out came the flag. And nowhere near as blatant.

I really can’t blame a down-field ref for blowing the play dead when it came so far forward. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn they actually teach them to do that, once the ball hits the ground.

by Ship on Jan 9, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW

all credit for this headline goes to Dave – he really nailed it, don’t you think? The Lions can KISS our (shut your mouth).

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 8:06 AM CST reply actions  

Like I said above I missed that. But, a couple of times, I saw a Lion hold out a helping hand

to help a Saint up. I think it might have been one player. That or someone decided that’s a bloody rational way to move the team towards more civilized behavior and away from penalties.

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

following the musical interlude

have the Lions dirty players ever been called The Motor City Madmen?

Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2012 8:07 AM CST reply actions  

i let my girl vote and she went with Sproles...

She said they played him more than usual. But my vote goes to PT Cruiser. He refused to go down. Great game for him. Shout out to Jabari too.

"I'm in my own zone"

by saints whoaday on Jan 8, 2012 10:40 AM CST reply actions  

Another question, Lythos

Is the American totally corrupt use of grammar (at least, mine) enough to make you pull your hair out.

by singleblow on Jan 8, 2012 4:06 PM CST reply actions  

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