Will the Saints Use the Franchise Tag?
We've been discussing the contract statuses of free agents ad nauseam since the Saints boarded the team plane in San Francisco. The major topics like how much they're worth, if they'll get paid and which teams are willing to pay them have all been covered already. But rarely has the possibility of the team using the Franchise Tag been a part of those conversations.
The nonexclusive Franchise Tag got a slight overhaul in the new Collective Bargaining Agreement so for those that aren't familiar with the change or for those completely unfamiliar with the tag, here is the exact wording from the CBA:
(A) Average of the 5 largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position, calculated by: (1) summing the amounts of the Franchise Tags for players at that position for the 5 preceding League Years; (2) dividing the resulting amount by the sum of the Salary Caps for the 5 preceding League Years (using the average of the amounts of the 2009 + 2011 Salary Caps as Salary Cap amount for 2010 League Year); and (3) multiplying the resulting percentage by the Salary Cap for the upcoming League Year (e.g., when calculating the Tender for the 2012 League Year, dividing the aggregate sum of the Franchise Tags for players at that position for the 2007-2011 League Years by the aggregate sum of the Salary Cap for the 2012 League Year); or (B) 120% of Prior Year Salary, whichever is greater.
Basically, a player given the Franchise Tag would be paid the average of the top five salaries at a player's position for the preceding five years. The difference being that previously, a player tagged would be paid the average of the top five salaries at a player's position for just the preceding year. Even more simply, the tag is now worth less for the players.
But it's still a lot of money and it shows just how much a team values that player, even if it's not a long-term deal. That means there are only a few players worthy of getting tagged because the Saints aren't going to use it on someone like Jeff Charleston and be forced to pay him equivalent to the best defensive ends around the league. So who then might the Saints want to tag?
I think Drew Brees, Marques Colston and Carl Nicks are the only legitimate options. Robert Meachem? Tracy Porter? I don't see it happening. But Brees, Colston or Nicks are all potential candidates if the two parties can't reach a long-term deal.
All of this leads to my original question and the entire purpose of this post: will the Saints pull the trigger on the tag? The hell if anyone really knows; we're just speculating here. If contract talks aren't going well with the aforementioned players, however, and the Saints want to buy some more negotiating time, the Franchise Tag would be an option. For Drew Brees, that would be about $14 million for 2012. Colston would receive something in the neighborhood of $9.5 million.
What do you guys think? Will the Saints use the Franchise Tag and who would they use it on? Would it be a good move or a bad move?
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It’ll be used on Drew or not used at all. I really can’t see (or agree with) the team paying Colston top WR money or Nicks top LT money. Hoping that it doesn’t become a thing with Brees, but the clock is ticking now and I’m not wholly confident that the deal is going to be done prior to the start of free agency.
Be used on Drew just before March 5th
…if there is no deal by then.
If Brees is inked they will tag Nicks if he hasn’t signed. Colston will get paid,
To repeat ad nauseAm…. NOT TO WORRY
Yes sir we want the ball...
It’s going to be used on Nicks. Even if brees’ deal isn’t inked, they know they will get it done with drew. Gotta tag nicks to buy time until something long term can be worked out.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 14, 2012 10:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Even if that means paying him guaranteed franchise LT money that we don’t have next season? I want Nicks back of course, but I don’t think using the tag on him is going to work.
by Drunkamania on Feb 14, 2012 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
So as an OG...
Nicks’ tag number would be representative of the top 5 offensive tackles? Are offensive linemen special; do they just lump them all together for franchise purposes? Wouldn’t he just be paid like a franchise guard — which is much less painful than a franchise LT?
As I understand it, the offensive line tag is uniform for the entire position group. No distinction made between guards, tackles, centers. So Nicks would get top left tackle money if the Saints were to tag him. Obviously that will not and should not happen.
by Drunkamania on Feb 14, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
If that's the case, then I agree with you completely.
If it’s position based, however, I would be quite happy keeping him for less than Evans is payed now.
The tag will almost certainly be used on Nicks
due to the substantial interest he would generate on the open market (Cowboys being the most likely team to overpay for Nicks’ services). Nicks would indeed be earning an obscene amount on the tag (about $10 M), but it would be in his obvious interest to quickly procure a long-term deal with a huge guaranteed salary (probably around $30 M).
$30 M being the signing bonus
I think he would get a contract similar to Jahri’s, perhaps 7 yrs, $62 M
Also, it would be absolute madness to allow Drew Brees to hit the open market in free agency. If he hasn’t signed by that deadline, he absolutely must be tagged.
by Drunkamania on Feb 14, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
He’s not going anywhere. He’s going to be paid equal to the highest paid qbs whether he signs in Nola or not. We already know the amount, it just comes down to how it’s structured.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 15, 2012 2:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If they tag Nicks...
The Saints will be out around 11 – 11.5 mil. for his salary for one year. Being out that kind of money for one year against the cap, they may as well bite the bullet and work out a long term cap friendly contract with Nicks.
more like 9.4 according to the 2012 tags projections..
it would cost over 6 to sign him.. although.. they could work the future contract with the “extra” 3 millions he already got overpaid..
i think it would be the most feasible..
a 4 year 5.5 million per year for colston should secure him..
so.. say.. 13 for brees’ + 9.5 tags to nicks + 5.5 colston = 28..
(oops.. there went all our money..)
next problem.. where do we get mo money..?
by the 9th plague on Feb 14, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
They will not use it
…They will reach agreement with Brees and Nicks.And Colston will sign with the Saints or someone else at less than the franchise tag would require Saints to pay him.
"I've seen George Foreman shadow box, and the shadow won." Muhammad Ali
Wow...
I didn’t realize it would be that high on Colston. Would have voted tag Colston until I saw that figure. Nicks is who I voted just because we really need to keep him, but realistically, The Saints are not know for using the Tag. Glad I’m not in Loomis’s shoes. He’s either get the key to the city or a rope.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Feb 14, 2012 1:36 PM CST reply actions
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Feb 15, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions
he's doing a Tonto, Frankenstein and Tarzan cover Free Agency bit - it's not been on SNL yet, but it soon will
simple caveman language from a deep and intense Exile
"We live by the blitz, and we die by the blitz.'' - Roman Harper
"So I guess the blitz died.'' - Alex Smith
by Hans Petersen on Feb 14, 2012 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
no mony.. you pay..?
we brok.. pay wit peenats..?
by the 9th plague on Feb 15, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Pay with your WHAT?
pay wit peenats..?
I don’t like the sound of that option.
The Pancho's Defense? ...Much like everybody's favorite Mexican cafeteria, it kinda blows, and it'll have you racing to the toilet while shouting "PLEASE! JUST HOLD ON FOR TWO MORE MINUTES!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PLEASE!!!"--Grandmaster Wang, 30Nov2011
Nicks is going to be pissed
But I bet it gets used on him. He’s talked about his “disappointment” in it if it happens so I don’t see him being very mature about it.

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