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Losing Heat: What Saints Defenders Might Follow Williams to the Rams?

When Payton and Loomis brought in Dr. Heat, New Orleans scored more than just a blitz-happy coordinator, prone to gems such as, "I have guys that couldn't catch a cold butt naked in a rain storm." Our dearly departed Gregg Williams also brought a slew of former players sold on his brand of damned if you do, damned if you do defense. Okay, to be fair, that defense, helped seal the deal on New Orleans' first-ever Super Bowl. For that, Dr. Heat should always have a special place in Whodat hearts.

But players have followed Williams when he's left other teams. This raises two questions: Which Saints might follow Williams to St. Louis? And are there any Ram defenders who might follow Spagnuolo to New Orleans?

After the Super Bowl win (and just before the "No Catching M*&^@-*F%*%R" clip), I think the best thing Greg-with-two-Gs, brought us is Jabari Greer (Nobody Understands Him!). He's been the most reliable and probably the best corner we've had-Porter's 2009 playoff performance not withstanding- since he's arrived.

Jabari is the best player who followed Dr. Heat, but not the only one. To my count, we also signed Clint Ingram, Pierson Prioleau, and Paul Spicer. (Bobby McCray and Leigh Torrence signed before Gregg, I think, but please tell me if I'm missing anyone.) Of the three Not-Jabari's, Prioleau is the only one who really got playing time, but he was a solid special teams and locker room guy, and if Ingram had been healthy, who knows.

We've got Jabari wrapped up through 2012, so we don't have to worry about him headed up-River in Williams' wake for a bit. However, homegrown UFA talents Jo-Lonn Dunbar and Tracy Porter have thrived to some extent in Williams' system. Would Williams' draw be enough for them to leave a contender like the Saints for the uncertainty of Fisher's Rams?

If Spagnuolo has the same pied-piper effect, could we end up with a Jabari 2.0 if a few of Spags' former players decide to come along for the ride?

It wouldn't be the first time. Three former Giants' defenders followed Spags to St. Louis: Fred Robbins, James Butler, and Craig Dahl. Granted, the Rams' defense wasn't exactly on fire this year. In fact, the Rams' 22-ranked defense was pretty bad, short of one given Sunday against the Saints. But, it's the off-season, and it's all hopes and dreams from now until pre-season (just as soon as we can wipe the bitter taste of Air Alex out of our mouths).

According to ESPN Insiders, here are the top four 2012 Rams free agent defenders:

Seventh-year UFA OLB, Brady Poppinga is the highest rated of the bunch, scoring a 62*.

According to ESPN Insiders:

Poppinga doesn't have outstanding raw talent but wins with toughness, intensity, intelligence and technique. He is a high-motor player who is a bit of an overachiever. He uses his hands well and understands how to leverage blockers at the point of attack. Poppinga is a solid tackler and runs well in pursuit, but lacks great lateral agility to redirect in space. He can be a liability in pure man coverage but is effective in combination zone schemes. He has never really developed as a pass rusher, and with Clay Matthews ahead of him on the depth chart Popinga will likely make his biggest contributions on special teams.

*62 isn't great, but they score Jo-Lonn Dunbar a 62, and I think we all agree that he did a fine job filling in for Vilma this year.

Next up is fifth-year UFA DT Gary Gibson, who scores a 61.

According to ESPN Insiders:

In 2009 he signed with St. Louis and has worked his way up to being their starting right DT. In 2010 he played in and started all 16 games and finished with 18 tackles on the year. He has adequate size for the position with good initial quickness and shows good awareness of blocking schemes as well as an understanding of how to keep his pad level down to leverage and squeeze blocks down. He lacks the strength to plug things up when double teamed but can penetrate gaps and knows how to use his hands to defeat and shed blocks. He is a good fighter in the trenches and shows excellent effort from snap to whistle.

Ninth-year UFA CB Roderick Hood and fourth-year UFA OLB Bryan Kehl round things out, both scoring a 59.

Again, according to ESPN Insiders:

Hood has athleticism and good downfield speed. He can extend the cushion with a fluid, easy backpedal and can flip his hips to turn and run with receivers deep. He shows good transition quickness and can close on the ball in front of him with a burst. He shows above-average route awareness and the ability to read the quarterback's eyes from off coverage.

And...

Kehl has developed into a nice sub-package substitute and role player. He brings a nice combination of size, speed and athletic ability and understands the defensive schemes used by the Rams. He lacks great upper-body strength and could do a better job of using his hands to defeat and shed blockers. He shows good agility and foot speed when dropping into space and can lock on most tight ends and running backs on downfield routes.

None of these players sound like the kind of get-after-the-quarterback difference-maker the Saints go after each year but never seem to land. Then again, with the big three of Brees, Nicks, and Colston looming in free agency this year, likely the best we can hope for in free agency is to pick up a couple of solid defenders who might be special team standouts and just maybe, just maybe, might even find a second life down in New Orleans. It's happened before.

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Not a talent evaluator here

So I’ll let the others debate the content on that.

I liked the structure of the article. Solid intro, meat of the article, and summation, IMO.

But I never heard of “Dr. Heat.” Is it just me or was that an ongoing moniker for Williams? Left me a little puzzled to start things off.

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by BRSaintsFan on Feb 6, 2012 6:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

nice article, good perspective on things

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Some say the glass is half full.
I say- 'are you going to finish that beer'?"
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by Philinwood on Feb 6, 2012 8:01 AM CST reply actions  

Good, detailed, learned something, b/c who's knows any Rams

on Defense outside of Long and Laurenitis

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I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
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by metryman on Feb 6, 2012 8:37 AM CST reply actions  

Best Article so far, and it ain't close

Tremendous. It asked a great question, “Who might Spags bring with him?” and then laid out the possibilities. You’ll have a hard time finding a more interesting Saints article on the web all week.

I don’t know anything about the Rams defense except Chris Long looked like a Hall of Famer against the Saints. Now I know alot.

HIRE THIS PERSON IMMEDIATELY!

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by Malbrough on Feb 6, 2012 9:19 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

This^^^^^and a rec'd

Good original article that doesn’t rehash our own, many opinionated comments. May have benefited from the others who when before him and knew what we were looking for. May even silence some of the naysayers.

Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Feb 6, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I voted no.
He has never really developed as a pass rusher, and with Clay Matthews ahead of him on the depth chart Popinga will likely make his biggest contributions on special teams.

This information is at least a year old, as it deals with his time with the Packers. He had 51 tackles and 0 sacks, and only started 12 games on a putrid Rams defense.

I think the best thing Greg-with-two-Gs, brought us is Jabari Greer (Nobody Understands Him!).

Greer never played under Williams. G-Dub coached in Buffalo until 2003, and Greer was drafted in 2004.

Your title asks which players will leave to go to St. Louis, while your article only deals with players who might come from the Rams.

Hood is really the only one I’d consider signing. He could be a good replacement in the nickel for Porter

Drew Brees- the REAL MVP.

by Alex Swift on Feb 6, 2012 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

Thought the same about Greer

Infact if I am not wrong Greer got signed about a week before GW was announced joining the team

Yes sir we want the ball...

by bondcrash on Feb 6, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Greer was the Saints second choice at CB , they wanted Bartell from the Rams.

"Saints fans should be sending Paul Tagliabue primo Hollywood quality hookers monthly for the remainder of his life"---Andrew Juge

by Malbrough on Feb 6, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed on all points...although I voted "need to see more".

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Feb 6, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Why that's a ringing endorsement....

Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Feb 6, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe it's not supposed to be

Because it’s not a very accurate article. And, in my opinion, honestly not a thoroughly well written one. I enjoyed parts of it, but overall not great.

Drew Brees- the REAL MVP.

by Alex Swift on Feb 6, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

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