Intent is never a part of our disciplinary process. A lot of times when players are disciplined for actions on the field - a helmet-to-helmet hit, a hit on a defenseless player or a late hit on a quarterback - the player will say, 'Hey, I didn't intend to hit him. I didn't intend to hit him with the helmet.' We have always consistently, going back for decades, going back to when Pete Rozelle was commissioner, not made intent a part of the disciplinary decision because you can't read someone's mind. You can only look at the objective evidence, and the objective evidence establishes the existence of a program; it establishes the presence of financial incentives for things like cart offs, which everyone agrees was a play on which an injury occurred to an opposing player; and that there was funding provided for cart offs, knockouts and things like that by members of the Saints.
Either he hasn't been listening to the players when they explain what they understood 'cart-offs' to mean or he's a liar or both.