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Game # 13 Open Thread: Saints @ Falcons

Saints (-4) @ Falcons: 8:30 PM EST, Georgia Dome, ESPN

Some links before a diatribe I wrote several days ago and am just getting around to posting today. I've got a bad feeling about this game.

  • Hey, did you know that Robert Meachem once dunked on LeBron James? I'd love to see what a receiver with that sort of athleticism would do in the Saints' offense.
  • Hmm, beat Atlanta. Arizona is ahead of them, so they beat them. Philly is wounded, they can take them. Chicago isn't as daunting as they once were. Whatever, don't hold your breath.

And now for something a little different. ...

I'm just gonna come out and say it: The Saints' tackles are pretty terrible run blockers. Don't believe me? Check out the second table on this page, or check out the reproduced version below. The Football Outsiders break each team's offensive line down by Adjusted Line Yardage in each direction a run can go (left end, left tackle, middle/guard, right tackle and right end). Essentially, Adjusted Line Yardage is their attempt at separating line performance from running back performance (admittedly, an impossible task). In theory, Adjusted Line Yardage will tell you how a league average runner will perform running behind that lineman. So what do we see?

Saints offensive line vs. league average by Adj. Line Yds.
Left End Left Tackle Mid/Guard Right Tackle Right End
2007 Saints 3.20 (29) 3.24 (30) 4.68 (4) 3.82 (24) 3.10 (29)
2006 Saints 4.38 (12) 4.12 (21) 4.55 (10) 3.91 (28) 4.42 (11)
2007 NFL Avg. 4.18 4.36 4.11 4.25 4.12
2006 NFL Avg. 4.12 4.37 4.32 4.21 4.05

I'm not as interested in the numbers as much as the rankings. And they're not promising. Up the middle, the Saints have been an elite running team over the past two seasons. On the peripheries, the Saints can't run very successfully.

Sure, the line can pass protect at an elite level (helped, of course, by Drew Brees' decision making and release). But only a select few offenses can live by passing the ball every down. The Saints don't appear to be one of them. The reason the Patriots can throw 34 straight times? They have receivers like Randy Moss, who are consistently open. Athletically, the closest thing the Saints have to Randy Moss is Robert Meachem (who once dunked on LeBron James). He's not seeing the field any time soon.

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Just Win

That is all we got to do.

Payton deserves a break. He is still young and inexperienced. He will learn what does and doesn't work and how to finish games. Mistakes are the best teachers.

Soothsayer

  1. 24
  1. Brees
  1. Fujita with a sack and INT

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 3:21 PM CST   0 recs

Agreed, he is a young coach.

Let's hope he is learning from mistakes like the Superdome Special and Jason David.

My biggest fear would be for the Saints to pull a 1991-95 Cleveland Browns.

by Sunil on Dec 10, 2007 3:59 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Scary

Ladies and Gentlemen....

LOS SANTOS DE SAN ANTONIO

or

THE LAS VEGAS SAINTS

or

THE SAN ANTONIO SAINTS OF NEW ORLEANS

or

THE UTAH JAZZ

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 7:18 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Los Angeles Saints

Portland Trailblazers.

Austin Toros.

Or, my favorite, Brooklyn Dodgers.

by Sunil on Dec 10, 2007 8:18 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Pregame views

Reggie is done for the season.

When are the Saints going to bust out the all gold unis?

Is Pierre Thomas going to play? I thought he was hurt, but the way they were talking he was getting carries tonight.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 7:09 PM CST   0 recs

Great throw and catch for the TD

From Brees to Patten. Nice fade pattern.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 8:15 PM CST   0 recs

Nice TD

Keep picking on Houston.

by Sunil on Dec 10, 2007 8:17 PM CST   0 recs

Jason David

You suck.

by Sunil on Dec 10, 2007 8:20 PM CST   0 recs

Jason David

YOU SUCK.

I think you are also rubbing off on McKenzie. Stop it. Please hurt yourself during the break, at halftim, or at least during practice before the next game.

Did I mention that you suck. If not, YOU SUCK.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 8:27 PM CST   0 recs

Play Action

Is that fooling anybody? Really?

by Sunil on Dec 10, 2007 8:30 PM CST   0 recs

Sluggish Game

I am only watching a little because I am also watching rasslin. Flicking back and forth.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 8:47 PM CST   0 recs

Brees looks sharp

I Get the feeling they could bust this open if they start to win field position on defense and special teams.

by Sunil on Dec 10, 2007 8:54 PM CST   0 recs

Too many passes

Too pass happy. Feels like Mike Martz is running the offense.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 9:01 PM CST   0 recs

Colston

Is a HOSS. An absolute beast.

The kid can only get better.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 9:02 PM CST   0 recs

Colston

Best player from the 2006 draft?

I vote yes.

by Sunil on Dec 10, 2007 9:34 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Debateable

But really that the guy picked fourth from the last pick is even in the discussion should show how much the draft is a crap shoot.

If I'm thinking right, I read or heard that his coaches at Hofstra badmouthed him to the NFL and that he was hurt or hurting at the time of the combine; and those were reasons he was taken late.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 9:53 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Whacky play at the end

Doesn't matter except in the stats book.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 9:10 PM CST   0 recs

nice drive

coming out of the lockerroom to start the second half.

might have to up my soothsayer points.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 9:32 PM CST   0 recs

You win

I'll send you an e-mail.

by Sunil on Dec 10, 2007 9:33 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Great

Crown me. No, not you Dennis Green.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 9:41 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Your predictions

were what you thought they were.

by Sunil on Dec 10, 2007 9:51 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

And

I let them off the hook

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 9:53 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Dammit

I missed it.
But yes when you put the QB under pressure, good things happen.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 9:43 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Warrick Dunn

Reggie needs to get some pointers from him.
And from Westbrook when we play Philly.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 9:57 PM CST   0 recs

Thinking

I wonder if Payton will call the Superdome Special play?

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 9:58 PM CST   0 recs

Missed the first plays

The announcers said he ran it at the beginning of the game.
However, running it at the start of the game and running it to finish a game are two different things.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 10:38 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Damn

Might want to put a safety on Norwood.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 10:04 PM CST   0 recs

Come on Lance

Dude cover the ball, you can't turn it over like that.

Because that what happens, teams score points off of turnovers.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 10:18 PM CST   0 recs

Good

Drew Brees didn't ask Suzy Kolber for a kiss during the postgame interview.

by southernsaint on Dec 10, 2007 11:01 PM CST   0 recs

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