Game #12 Open Thread: Saints vs. Bucs
The Saints look to duplicate a performance that was easily their finest of the season. According to the Football Outsiders, their team DVOA of 53.7 percent was a full 20 percent better than their next-best performance against Jacksonville. That number is buoyed by the contribution of the defense, which stopped the Panthers to the tune of a negative 39.1 percent defensive rating. This was the third-best defensive performance of the Sean Payton era, trailing only 2006 efforts against Atlanta (week 3) and New York (week 16).
The NFC South basically boils down to today. If the Bucs win, they all but clinch, taking a commanding lead. The Saints don't need to win the division to make the playoffs.
The Saints are favored by three, the usual home-team advantage, meaning that Vegas sees these teams as even. If the Bucs win today the notion will seem silly; if the Saints win we can talk.
Jeff Garcia might play, despite him back injury. The Saints' task would be easier if he sat. It won't be easy, particularly offensively.
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Soothsayer
- 24
- Brees
- Reggie Bush rushing TD
The playoff chances change every week. It boils down to just win, baby.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 1:25 PM CST 0 recs
One thing we have going for us...
...over all the other 5-6 teams, is that our CONFERENCE record is superior to everyone's, and that's the tiebreaker it'll come down to if we're in the wild card race instead of the division title.
But agreed. Just win out, baby.
by GeauxTigers on
Dec 2, 2007 2:17 PM CST
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Also
Can I say I'd just like to see Garcia play? I'm a bit bummed that even if he does he'll be hobbled, but in the end, that was the knock on him in the first place (that he would not be able to last the full season). In any event, I always like for our teams to go up against the best possible opposition. There's no glory in beating up a crippled team. If we're any good, we ought to be able to compete with anyone.
From an LSU standpoint, for instance, I was rooting like hell for Kentucky to beat Tennessee last week so that we could play Georgia in the SEC Title game. The whole world has decided that there was no way LSU would compete with Georgia, so my view is "Bring on the best!" Same damn thing as 2003, when we walked into Atlanta and destroyed them after hearing all Title Week long that we couldn't complete with UGA since we merely squeaked by them in Baton Rouge during the regular season.
Anyway, whatever. Let's kill the Bucs. Or shall I say, the SUCKS!
Ooo, burned.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 2:46 PM CST 0 recs
Curses!
I didn't recall his tackling being a problem, just the coverage. Yeow.
by GeauxTigers on
Dec 2, 2007 3:24 PM CST
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Man they just drove that down the field
Getting decent pressure from our front four, and that's what allowed us to hold them to a FG, but now we see the difference between playing against David Carr and playing against, well...anyone.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 3:23 PM CST 0 recs
Yep
Pressure the young QB and force mistakes.
Note that they didn't pick on David. That will change.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 3:25 PM CST 0 recs
Wow...in good company on 3rd down %
NE, Pitt, NO, Dallas, Indy, in that order.
And on cue, we don't convert
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 3:31 PM CST 0 recs
While I could listen to Louie Armstrong all day,
I think the rest of the NFL has got to be getting tired of that Visa "Saints go Marchin In" commercial. Though I suppose it is preferable to John Cougar's "This is Our Country"
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 3:33 PM CST 0 recs
Galloway
Owns us.
Do I have to New Orleans and incapacitate Jason David?
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 3:33 PM CST 0 recs
It's not even surprising is it?
Just no question that he's going to dominate every time we line up against him. One day when he retires, opposing teams ought to sign him to a one-week contract the week they play us.
by GeauxTigers on
Dec 2, 2007 3:40 PM CST
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Amazing how a holding penalty can kill a drive
No matter, that's good for us! Solid D on the screen/dump off there.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 3:39 PM CST 0 recs
Yep
Lets turn around and get a score.
Hopefully, Bush and Brees are together after their spat.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 3:40 PM CST 0 recs
MARQUES!!!!
Can't believe brees went to the covered colston instead of Patten down the field but WOW on that catch!
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 3:44 PM CST 0 recs
You know it's a perfect fade
When the receiver doesn't even have to jump for it. Beautiful!
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 3:48 PM CST 0 recs
LOL Galloway 130 yds in the 1st qtr
I mean good GOD...he's going to give Flipper Anderson a run for his money.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 3:50 PM CST 0 recs
Fantasy Team
He's on my fantasy team so that's good. But can someone cover him?
by southernsaint on
Dec 2, 2007 3:54 PM CST
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Great FOX
Why don't you show another commercial and miss the TD play?
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 3:55 PM CST 0 recs
Testy
There will be some personal foul penalties if they keep this up.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 4:05 PM CST 0 recs
Thank god for penalties killing their drives
3rd and 4 becomes 3rd and 9.
Luke McCown - latest in a long line of opposing no-names our defense turns into superstars.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 4:13 PM CST 0 recs
Killer Penalties
Holding and now false start.
You are going the wrong way.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 4:21 PM CST 0 recs
DEVERY!
WE'VE GOT A GALLOWAY OF OUR OWN, BITCHES!!!!
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 4:23 PM CST 0 recs
McCown's numbers
Geez, he completed his first 14 passes. This is ridiculous.
by Sunil on Dec 2, 2007 4:30 PM CST 0 recs
Wow, sack and a penalty moving 'em back
Now, they can just throw a bomb to Galloway since they're out of FG range. I give it 90% odds of success.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 4:35 PM CST 0 recs
Yep
Especially if David is on him.
Seriously, do they not know that throwing at David results in positive plays?
by southernsaint on
Dec 2, 2007 4:42 PM CST
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Tim Ryan: "Jon is hot"
Cue Michael Scott..."THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID."
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 4:36 PM CST 0 recs
Whew
Good half. The Bucs could be up big, but the defense got some stops and forced FGs.
Good to see a fellow LA Techster doing it big.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 4:38 PM CST 0 recs
Yep, all my classmates went to Tech
I went to Cedar Creek so I know Ruston well.
Did you hear Terry at the half say Josh McCown on Oakland went to Tech? Got the wrong McCown, Terry. He should be on top of his own alma mater!
by GeauxTigers on
Dec 2, 2007 4:55 PM CST
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Yeah
I'm from Monroe and went to Ouachita. Drove to Ruston for Tech because ULM is garbage and I couldn't afford LSU.
Bradshaw took too many hits while he was QB for the Steelers.
by southernsaint on
Dec 2, 2007 5:04 PM CST
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Run D
I was just about to praise the Run D when Graham ran it in.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 5:06 PM CST 0 recs
Reggie
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 5:07 PM CST 0 recs
Not Yet
On the screens and shovel passes I get that feeling he can break it. But on running plays, not so much. Maybe he will get "it" one day.
by southernsaint on
Dec 2, 2007 5:11 PM CST
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Confidence
He hasn't ever run decisevely, but he looks especially unconfident lately. That and the line isn't particularly great at run blocking.
by Sunil on
Dec 2, 2007 5:26 PM CST
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WTF
Why so many timeouts? Damn.
Let me help you, they will either run to the right or play action and toss to the wide open TE or running back short in the middle of the field.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 5:22 PM CST 0 recs
No timeouts left with 19 min to go
Oh well, never wanna take 'em into the locker room with ya. Those won't be useful in the 4th.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 5:23 PM CST 0 recs
Look at that
Blitz hard and force the quick throw. Pick 6 by McKenzie.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 5:24 PM CST 0 recs
High Risk
If you get there good, if not big plays will happen.
But it's not like the defense doesn't give up big plays anyway.
by southernsaint on
Dec 2, 2007 5:31 PM CST
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Good Play
By Craft stripping the ball from Galloway to prevent the pass completion.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 5:36 PM CST 0 recs
Indeed, the rare good play by our secondary
Just one drive after a GREAT one!
by GeauxTigers on
Dec 2, 2007 5:42 PM CST
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Where is Pierre Thomas?
Would be nice to have a semi-power running game right about now.
And where are the swing passes to Reggie today?
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 5:42 PM CST 0 recs
Boy, Lance Moore is dependable
Surprised this is the first we've heard out of him today.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 5:43 PM CST 0 recs
Timouts
A timeout would have been nice there. Good Job Payton.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 5:45 PM CST 0 recs
That sack was a direct result of no timeouts left
Ugh. You could tell Brees started to call for one with the play clock hitting zero before he realized we don't HAVE ANY LEFT.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 5:46 PM CST 0 recs
Right
Should have took the penalty to reset and get another play called.
by southernsaint on
Dec 2, 2007 5:48 PM CST
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A little PI on McKenzie?
Well, I'm not complaining that that didn't get called.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 5:51 PM CST 0 recs
We have been outplayed today
But we're ahead and just one solid drive here is all it takes for us to secure this victory.
They've DOUBLED us up on offense. That's pretty stunning. Once again, a holding penalty kills their drive and leaves them a yard short of a first down.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 5:52 PM CST 0 recs
Yes we have been outplayed
The TOP split is crazy and the penalties have killed them. Not to mention the interception return TD.
A good TD drive here would be nice. Hopefully, we won't need a timeout.
by southernsaint on
Dec 2, 2007 5:56 PM CST
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Again
Big third down play and the play clock running down, a timeout would have been nice.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 5:59 PM CST 0 recs
No chance
That play had no chance of getting a first down even he caught it.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 6:00 PM CST 0 recs
Oh Lord
Now our defense has to hold.
I suppose we only deserve it that a false start killed our potential game clinching drive. Not that we could've converted a 3rd and 2 anyway.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 6:01 PM CST 0 recs
Good Punt
Dail up the defense here. Got them pinned deep.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 6:01 PM CST 0 recs
Pressure
Put pressure on the young QB and good things happen.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 6:03 PM CST 0 recs
SAFETY! YAH DEFENSE!!
All day we crucify our defense yet they come up with the two biggest plays of the game. Hats off!!!
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 6:03 PM CST 0 recs
Can Stecker pass?
I think one of those sweeps would be stellar if Stecker just pulled up and lobbed it deep to one of the guys...they're bringing the safeties in quick on those run plays.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 6:06 PM CST 0 recs
Oh not a goddamn reverse...
That's not what I meant. A toss???
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 6:08 PM CST 0 recs
Just run the ball
Run out the clock. Dammit what the hell!?
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 6:09 PM CST 0 recs
Defense
So odd to see the defense carrying the offense today.
by Sunil on Dec 2, 2007 6:10 PM CST 0 recs
Faith
It aint over til the fat lady sings. Big return here or the hail mary.
by southernsaint on Dec 2, 2007 6:17 PM CST 0 recs
Well, we just didn't deserve this one anyway.
We clearly have a lot of work to do to become a better team.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 2, 2007 6:18 PM CST 0 recs










